Artists: Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez (Penciller) , Romeo Tanghal (Inker)
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Ruben DaCollector
Member Since 2008
2 - Posted on 6/4/2025
Wonderful storytelling and acting. It boggles the mind to think nobody cared for the art, just because it wasn't done by Pérez.
Marcus Wai
Member Since 2005
2 - Posted on 6/5/2025
Ruben DaCollector wrote:
Wonderful storytelling and acting. It boggles the mind to think nobody cared for the art, just because it wasn't done by Pérez.
Fans were spoiled as anything after Perez was going to suffer. After wrapping up the major plotlines, I don't think Jericho and Kole were the right characters to keep readers interested. Tales of was dealing with Cyborg and Garfield Logan's trauma in the aftermath of Annual 3 which was more appealing than the new birdy birdnest characters (including Terry Long). Teen Titans was DC's top title. After Crisis, that focus went back to Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman.
Ruben DaCollector
Member Since 2008
2 - Posted on 6/5/2025
Marcus Wai wrote:
Fans were spoiled as anything after Perez was going to suffer. After wrapping up the major plotlines, I don't think Jericho and Kole were the right characters to keep readers interested. Tales of was dealing with Cyborg and Garfield Logan's trauma in the aftermath of Annual 3 which was more appealing than the new birdy birdnest characters (including Terry Long). Teen Titans was DC's top title. After Crisis, that focus went back to Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman.
Jericho and Kole may not be the characters readers want to read about, but you can't always focus on the big guns, and you know as well as I do that regardless of who they would've focused the stories on, all the readers that jumped ship wouldn't have cared, because they were always only ever there for Pérez, not the characters. Like I've said before, to me they were "family", so I stuck with them until Marv had sufficiently destroyed them as both a team and family and the combination of unattractive art finally made me give up with New Titans #101.
Marcus Wai
Member Since 2005
2 - Posted on 6/5/2025
Ruben DaCollector wrote:
Jericho and Kole may not be the characters readers want to read about, but you can't always focus on the big guns, and you know as well as I do that regardless of who they would've focused the stories on, all the readers that jumped ship wouldn't have cared, because they were always only ever there for Pérez, not the characters. Like I've said before, to me they were "family", so I stuck with them until Marv had sufficiently destroyed them as both a team and family and the combination of unattractive art finally made me give up with New Titans #101.
What if they went with Jurgens from issue 6 instead of Barreto and JLGL? He was fresh and would have signalled to the fans they were pushing to the 90's. If Grummett was ready to take over then, would he have fared any better? Wolfman's destruction of the team was worse than Perez leaving. You kind of wondered if it was Perez's co plotting that made them a success in the first place.
Ruben DaCollector
Member Since 2008
2 - Posted on 6/5/2025
Marcus Wai wrote:
What if they went with Jurgens from issue 6 instead of Barreto and JLGL? He was fresh and would have signalled to the fans they were pushing to the 90's. If Grummett was ready to take over then, would he have fared any better? Wolfman's destruction of the team was worse than Perez leaving. You kind of wondered if it was Perez's co plotting that made them a success in the first place.
Nah, neither Jurgens nor Grummett would've made any difference. As I said, during the 80's most people followed artists rather than writers, and while some of us loved the characters enough to stick around regardless of who the artists were, in those days there were plenty of fans who would jump ship whenever a big name artist moved on from a title. To the tune of tens of thousands. However many people read Titans comics today, that is probably aropund the same number of readers that dropped off Titans when Pérez did. That was the first serious blow to the title and it never quite recovered, even during the half year or so when Pérez returned to do breakdowns. So the Titans were no longer DC's top seller nor top characters, and then Marv's continued destruction fo the team just made things even worse. Believe me though, even back when Pérez was still on the book, I always used to wonder jus thow much of the plot ideas were his versus Marv's.
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