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Avengers #200 page #22 by George Perez and Dan Green!

Location: George Perez Gallery
Artists: George Perez (Penciller) ,  Dan Green (Inker) ,  Jim Shooter (Writer) ,  George Perez (Writer)

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Location: George Perez Gallery
Title: Avengers #200 page #22 by George Perez and Dan Green!*
Artist:  George Perez (Penciller) ,  Dan Green (Inker) ,  Jim Shooter (Writer) ,  George Perez (Writer)
Media Type: Pen and Ink
Art Type: Interior Page
For Sale Status: NFS
Views: 202
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Added to Site: 7/12/2026

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"I've been used! That isn't my baby! I don't even know who the father is!"

— Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers)

OK, so I LOVE George Perez!  I also LOVE Anniversary issues!  I never expected to ever have a page from Avengers #200 with the rarity and excitement around this issue.  On top of all of this - we have Don Blake hitting his walking stick on the floor and transforms to Thor!  It's also cool to see Ms. Marvel in her updated costume! I can say, it helps to have friends in the hobby.  I've done many deals with Tom McDonald mostly selling or trading to him as he and I have similar likes.  He wanted to get something back and had this page, and we did an overall deal that allowed me to get this.  Thanks Tom!

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Synopsis for "The Child is Father To...?"

After experiencing an impossibly short two-day pregnancy, Ms. Marvel delivers a baby boy in the Avengers infirmary, attended by Dr. Donald Blake (a.k.a. Thor) and Jocasta. The Avengers treat the event like a happy normal occasion and coo over the infant. Ms. Marvel, however, is decidedly upset by the experience.

Overnight, Ms. Marvel’s child grows into a toddler and begins speaking. In just a few more hours, he is an adolescent boy but demonstrates an even more advanced intellect. He calls himself Marcus and gives evasive answers to questions about where he came from. He promises to explain everything just as soon as he can complete a secret project. Given technical gear to work with, he sets to work creating a sophisticated device.

Meanwhile, all around the NYC area, people are experiencing shifts in time, either being transported to different eras themselves or encountering historical or futuristic beings.

Initially, Ms. Marvel refuses to even see her child, but Wonder Man persuades her to confront her problem, difficult as it might be. Thus, she goes to the lab and meets a now fully grown Marcus, who instantly recognizes her but alternately calls her “mother” and “Carol.” Ms. Marvel seems to recognize his face but can’t recall how.

Just then, the mansion comes under attack… by a T-Rex! Spaceships and WWI era fighter planes buzz the mansion as well. While Iron-Man and the Vision tackle them, the rest of the team inside the mansion encounter various other time-displaced, aggressive intruders. Hawkeye, who has been especially suspicious of Marcus all along, ducks out of the melee, intent on confronting him in the lab.

Down in the lab, all the other Avengers (aside from Ms. Marvel) depart to join the fighting. Carol shoves Dr. Blake into a secure room for his protection and he uses the opportunity to transform into Thor and join the battle. Marcus assures Carol that everything will be alright just as soon as he activates his device, a time flux generator. Carol demands answers from him but he knocks her out. Seeing this, Hawkeye assumes Marcus is a straight-out villain and destroys the machine with an explosive arrow.

Thor and Iron-Man burst into the lab. Marcus is ready to take them all on, but Ms. Marvel (who has recovered) intervenes, stating that she will defend them from him. Marcus then admits he merely wanted to goad them into killing him!

He goes on to explain that he is actually the son of the Avengers' old foe Immortus. Ages ago, the master of limbo had rescued a doomed survivor of a shipwreck, an unnamed woman, and brought her to limbo to be his consort. Together, they produced Marcus. The woman eventually had to return to her point in time and Immortus himself was killed (actually, his predecessor Kang was killed, thus negating Immortus's existence). Marcus was left alone and as a child born in limbo, he could not exist on Earth without disrupting the timeline. He devised a plan to be re-born on Earth: he plucked Carol out of time, brought her to limbo and wooed her. (Marcus specifically mentions “...admittedly with a subtle boost from Immortus’ machines…”, baldly stating that she was mentally manipulated.) Once he implanted his seed in her, he restored her to her own point in time so that she could give birth to him. Marcus intended his machine to stabilize his presence on Earth, but since it has now been destroyed, his only options are either to return to a lonely existence in limbo or die.

Carol takes pity on him. She tells her male compatriots that she realizes she has feelings for him and wants to be with him. Thus, Thor transports the pair of them to limbo. The time disruptions immediately vanish and Ms. Marvel is gone.

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Posted On 7/12/2026

  • This is a double-sized issue to commemorate the special occasion (the 200th issue).
  • Writer David Michelinie had another ending intended for the conclusion of this storyline. Originally, it would have been revealed that the Supreme Intelligence of the Kree would have been responsible for impregnating Ms. Marvel in order to create a Kree-Human hybrid child. This would have made more sense as: 1) The Supreme Intelligence had long been established as wanting to jump-start the Kree's stalled evolution by creating a hybrid with humans, 2) Ms. Marvel has close ties to the Kree race given that her powers were granted by Kree technology and she had already been targetted by the Intelligence for this specific reason in her own series, and 3) the Supreme Intelligence was a clearly established, out-and-out villain who could not be expected to engender any sympathy for his actions. (This story treats Marcus as a kind of pitiable anti-hero.) But then Editor-in-Chief of Marvel Comics Jim Shooter vetoed Michelinie's intended story because it was too similar to a plotline in the already published in the series "What If...?" (Vol 1 20 - "What If the Avengers Fought the Kree-Skrull War without Rick Jones?").[1] When Shooter revisited the comic in 2011, he called it "a travesty" and said that he had no memories of his involvement, saying his story credit might have come from giving suggestions to the writers (possibly the veto above).[2]
  • This issue generated considerable controversy concerning the circumstances of Ms. Marvel's unwilling pregnancy. Ms. Marvel would be gone from the Marvel Universe for a year, returning in Avengers Annual #10. Due to the Avengers allowing her to be taken by Marcus, she would leave the group and become a regular supporting character in Uncanny X-Men.
  • In addition to the misogynist content and twisted Freudian backstory, this story doesn't even make sense given the previously established history of Immortus. During the Celestial Madonna storyline, it was established that the villain Kang the Conqueror would become Immortus in his later life. When Kang was killed in battle (Vol 1 143), the timeline was altered and Immortus therefore ceased to exist, since Kang never became him. [A footnote late in this issue states that Immortus "died" in Avengers Vol 1 143, which is not quite the truth.] If Immortus never existed, his son Marcus should therefore have never existed either. Adding to the confusion, in Thor Vol 1 282, which came out a year prior to this issue, Immortus was revealed to be alive and still in control of limbo. This flies directly in the face of Marcus's claim that he was alone there. (Thor is one of the Avengers who listens to Marcus recount his history, but does not comment at all on his relatively recent interaction with Immortus.)
  • Writer Carol Strickland wrote a deservedly scathing takedown of this issue in the fan magazine LoC Vol 1 1 entitled "The Rape of Ms. Marvel". It discusses the exceptionally inappropriate content of this story as well as the generally dismissive treatment of female characters by the Marvel Comics creative staff in the 1970s.
  • The humorous pool game between Hawkeye and the Beast should be considered apocryphal on the sliding timescale of the Marvel Universe, given that the Beast refers to his calculator - a TI-59 by Texas Instruments - as "top of the line" computing device. In the 21st century, that's not nearly true anymore.
  • The Wasp has yet another new costume this issue.
Jim Warden Member Since 2003
Posted On 7/12/2026

Nick, you are crushing it with yet another amazing page!  The Thor transformation is fantastic and I love the incredible detail throughout every panel.  It's also cool to see Ms. Marvel in her updated costume!  Congratulations on another gem for your fabulous collection!!

Posted On 7/13/2026

Jim Warden wrote:
" Nick, you are crushing it with yet another amazing page!  The Thor transformation is fantastic and I love the incredible detail throughout every panel.  It's also cool to see Ms. Marvel in her updated costume!  Congratulations on another gem for your fabulous collection!! "

Thank you so much for the kind words.  I truly am blessed here.

James S Member Since 2017
Posted On 7/13/2026

So much to love with this one!

Posted On 7/13/2026

James S wrote:
" So much to love with this one! "

Thanks brother!  

Rick W Member Since 2017
Posted On 7/13/2026

Sweet transformation sequence!

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Posted On 7/13/2026

Rick W wrote:
" Sweet transformation sequence! "

Yeah, I could not believe how lucky I was to get this page.

Posted On 7/13/2026

love it, was a big fan of his run, hopefully ill get a perez soon, congrats on this one nicky

Posted On 7/13/2026

thomas derrick aka #1marvelfan wrote:
" love it, was a big fan of his run, hopefully ill get a perez soon, congrats on this one nicky "

Thanks man.  And you will bud.  It took me 35 plus years to get a really good one.  

Marcus Wai Member Since 2005
Posted On 7/13/2026

Infamous issue!  The story needs a retcon to right the wrongs as a dream sequence.  It is towards the end of the Perez run and the art is his most polished of the first run!

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Posted On 7/13/2026

Marcus Wai wrote:
" Infamous issue!  The story needs a retcon to right the wrongs as a dream sequence.  It is towards the end of the Perez run and the art is his most polished of the first run! "

I forgot the retcon.  Wow.

Marcus Wai Member Since 2005
Posted On 7/13/2026

Nick - Barry - Matt - Hal - Namor wrote:
" I forgot the retcon.  Wow. "

I'm saying it needs a retcon.

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Posted On 7/13/2026

Marcus Wai wrote:
" I'm saying it needs a retcon. "

I thought that the dream sequence was later?  Guess my memory is not that good.

JN 80 Member Since 2016
Posted On 7/13/2026

Stunning Perez. Love all the panels but the final Thor one may be my favorite 

Posted On 7/13/2026

JN 80 wrote:
" Stunning Perez. Love all the panels but the final Thor one may be my favorite  "

Yeah, leading into the last panel and the last panel rocks!

F M Member Since 2005
Posted On 7/13/2026

Cool anniversary page by a great artist

Posted On 7/13/2026

F M wrote:
" Cool anniversary page by a great artist "

Yes, I can't believe how fortunate I was to pick this up.  

Aidan (Re-Legion ) Lacy Member Since 2005
Posted On 7/13/2026

Wow. An absolute masterpiece of a page. Enjoy 

M L Member Since 2015
Posted On 7/13/2026

Fantastic transformation page! Congrats Nick!

Ron S Member Since 2007
Posted On 7/13/2026

Great page - crazy story. As you pointed out, eventually, this was "fixed" by the Avengers Annual.  Still, a great page with a Thor transformation!

Duke  Fleed Member Since 2013
Posted On 7/13/2026

Landmark addition! Thor Transformation, Guy in a towel fixinging a futuristic computer. Its got everything.  OH and Perez!!  Huge Congrats.

West Stephan Member Since 2007
Posted On 7/13/2026

Thor transformation pages are always a treat... and a treasure!

Ron B Member Since 2024
Posted On 7/13/2026

That is a page! Has a little bit of everything, congrats

Carlo M Member Since 2006
Posted On 7/13/2026

Typical page by Perez.  Panel 6 is obviously the show runner but every panel is rich in detail and storytellng.  Look at the perspective of panel 3, not easy to pull off.  And yes, the story is contrversial but it is the prologue of the great Avengers 10 Annual, so historical it is indeed.

Kavi H Member Since 2018
Posted On 7/13/2026

Amazing page from a milestone issue! The Don Blake transformation into Thor is awesome. You and Tom both have great taste!

R Berman Member Since 2018
Posted On 7/13/2026

Crazy story. Love that Wondy in the first panel.

Mike (aka Off White) White Member Since 2008
Posted On 7/13/2026

What a great Avengers page from George! Congrats!

Joe Murray Member Since 2006
Posted On 7/13/2026

Wow, very cool Pérez classic Avengers page, so much to enjoy, congrats!

Miki Annamanthadoo Member Since 2003
Posted On 7/13/2026

I didn't care much for the story but the art is wonderful. And a Thor transformation page is always great!

Tom McDonald Member Since 2019
Posted On 7/13/2026

So glad you own this, my friend. 

Our deal for this page ultimately led to me getting the Neal Adams Green Lantern page.

Thrills all around!

Ruben DaCollector Member Since 2008
Posted On 7/14/2026

Not only a Pérez Avengers #200 page, but the one with a magnificent Don Blake to Thor transformation scene? Kudos, Nicky!

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Posted On 7/15/2026

Ruben DaCollector wrote:
" Not only a Pérez Avengers #200 page, but the one with a magnificent Don Blake to Thor transformation scene? Kudos, Nicky! "

Thanks brother!

Steve Lawrence Member Since 2016
Posted On 7/14/2026

Controversial storyline buts it's hard to beat George Perez drawing the Avengers. Congrats!

Robert Binkley Member Since 2011
Posted On 7/14/2026

Great Perez Page !  Congrats !

Andrew Rallis Member Since 2019
Posted On 7/16/2026

Incredible Thor transformation page, rare for Perez I think...and inside an important (but creepy!) storyline. Beautiful!

Andy Wurst Member Since 2004
Posted On 7/17/2026

Fantastic page!

Nils E Member Since 2014
Posted On 7/17/2026

Don't forget Dan Green, a sterling Perez inker.

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