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I did ink it later. I must have lightboxed it. I just uploaded a scan of the inks to my gallery.
That's Wally Wood, Larry Hama and Ralph Reese in panel 4, if you didn't know.
I did 90% of the inking myself on this page, Ruben. It was a rush job and unfortunately I had to abandon it for others to finish up.
Oops. Magik isn't one of my characters and I never read her comics. Sorry about that.
Tom was my favorite inker, and I think he did a fine job and was very gracious to help me meet the deadline, but as far as being rushed, keep in mind that I was even more rushed than he was, or I would have inked all the pages myself.
Very tight pencils and I hated every minute of it. And Paul hated my inks on it.
Thanks, Fred. This wasn't a commission, though. It was a variant cover done for Marvel.
Marvel requested Magma and Magik replace Rahne for this cover. I don't remember why.
I agree it's strange, Roy, but it is what it is. Maybe Stan lettered it himself or had it lettered and Dargaud had to translate it to French?
Thanks, Lee, but I didn't ink this page. and Michael, it isn't even from issue #7. Maybe it's from #8?
It sounds like you may think this was inked with a brush, but I inked it with a Hunt #103 pen nib, Artemaria.
Thanks very much, Gary! I had forgotten about this.
Fantastic job by Chris. This piece really needed color to give it some clarity, with so much going on. Really powerful.
Interesting Wrightsonesque cleanup of Neal's gobbledegook of Batman's neck in panel three, but both the pencils and inks flatten his chin into his neck and create a bizarre goatee by connecting that black.
While I think most of what you're doing is wonderful (one of the things I've always loved about Neal's own inking is the playfulness of his lines, and you also have that quality) Alfred's jaw in the top panel is an example of where I think you over-render and misinterpret Neal's anatomy. By placing the dark where you did, you moved the jaw bone lower and out of place. By rendering so much, you create a grey that bleeds into Batman's mask in the panel below it, flattening the depth. Neal's pencils had a white against black which separates the two heads much better, and his jawbone rendering has a simple elegance that all your rendering can't match. While your technical proficiency is magnificent, Dick Giordano (who several people are comparing this stuff against) always strengthened areas like this with strong contrast rather than weakening them with grey.
In addition to the inking change, notice that Neal changed the angle of the head to center it over the torso better. In his original drawing, the head was dislocated. I think that probably bothered Neal more than your inking, once he realized it, and is the main reason he re-did the head.
As amazing as Neal always is, I can't believe Neal can't see Alfred's arms are consistently too short on this page. His drawing and his re-inking of the lower right figure in the last panel is just strange.
An excellent job for the most part. But you're doing some things that weaken the art, Scott. (You tend to cluster areas of detailed rendering next to each other, flattening the depth, because you (and Neal) love to render so much. I can see why you opened up the stone steps on this page, but it creates a grey where Neal had a black, and the page is so wildly busy it needs those blacks. And you misinterpret his anatomy in some places, not that it's always correct. I used to be in such awe of Neal's anatomy, but now I know better.) Overall, though, you're helping him far more than you're hurting him. You're really fixing a lot of things (like that leg) that sorely need fixing. It's hard to believe Neal thinks the re-inking he's doing is for the better.
Congrats, Royd. You have excellent taste. Stan Drake was a master.
You said it, Fred. Jemm was an overlooked jewel by Colan. He did some wonderful work on it, and he was a pleasure to ink, as always.
Thanks. It probably took me a couple hours, maybe more. I usually call anything I ink in markers a sketch.
OUCH! What'd I ever do to you, Shawn?! :) This was over extremely loose breakdowns, I was sleeping only four hours a night to meet the deadline, and I had no clue what inking was all about. If you must post this, at least allow me to link to my web site so people can see I improved a little bit later on... http://www.bobmcleod.com
Damned Bob McLeod p.o. box 63 Emmaus, PA 18049 Damned USA
I've got it, Brian! :) I love Stan's work. Oddly, Kelly Green was about the only comic I ever managed to get my wife to read and enjoy.
Thanks, Dave! The visit was of course my pleasure, and you were a terrific host.I had a great time and the students were the best! -Bob
Just wonderful, Joe! Thanks so much for this fabulous tutorial. -Bob McLeod
These step-by-steps always leave out the most important stuff. How do I get from the blank sheet of paper to this??? :) Cool stuff, Anthony!
