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Post 1 of 2 — Strange Academy: Finals #4 COVER by Humberto Ramos, 2023 -- Dormammu & his son Doyle

Artist: Humberto Ramos (All)

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Post 1 of 2 — Strange Academy: Finals #4 COVER by Humberto Ramos, 2023 -- Dormammu & his son Doyle Comic Art
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Title: Post 1 of 2 — Strange Academy: Finals #4 COVER by Humberto Ramos, 2023 -- Dormammu & his son Doyle
Artist: Humberto Ramos (All)
Media Type: Pen and Ink
Art Type: Cover
For Sale Status: NFS
Views: 478
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Comments: 22
Added to Site: 4/30/2023
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Tonight I'm posting two pieces I just got in, both from Strange Academy: Finals issue #4, and both by the fantastic Humberto Ramos!!!

I've always been a big fan of Dormammu, Doctor Strange's famous villain. And my favorite character/student from Strange Academy (Doctor Strange's School for Fledgling Sorcerers) is Doyle Dormammu. So this cover was a no brainer.

Doyle Dormammu was born to a normal human woman. However, after Doyle developed an inoperable brain tumor, his mother tried everything to cure him and, as a last resort, took him before Dormammu, who cured the boy by imbuing a part of himself into Doyle.

Hence, his classic flamey pumpkin-esque Dormammu-chic head.

And I don't think I've ever seen a bigger Dormammu head on a piece of art. Looking at this image, I can't help but recall the first time Dorothy, Scarecrow, Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion are brought before that HUGE green Wizard Of Oz holographic head in the movie. I imagine Dormammu bellowing out: "STEP FORWARD ... TIN MAN !!" Or in this case, "STEP FORWARD ... SON DOYLE!!"

Anyway, love this cover and very jazzed to add it to my collection. Thanks, Joseph and Humberto!

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Foggy Bottom 
Member Since 2009
Forum Moderator

1 - Posted on 4/30/2023

Baller.

Troy C. Punswick 
Member Since 2008

1 - Posted on 4/30/2023

Ordinarily I am not a huge fan of headshots but this one presents really well!  Nice cover!!!

Michele M 
Member Since 2010

1 - Posted on 4/30/2023

Love the pencils! One of my favorites from this series. 

Paul P Spiderversity 
Member Since 2011

Posted on 5/1/2023

Michele M wrote:

Love the pencils! One of my favorites from this series. 

Yaaayy, a comment from Michele! 😀 It's an honor, since you are the owner of the best collection of Strange Academy art out there, and  a fellow Ramos enthusiast to boot. Thanks!

Ruben DaCollector 
Member Since 2008

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

It really is a fantastic rendition of the Dread Dormammu, so cool looking! But, uh...."Doyle Dormammu"? Really?!? 🙄

Paul P Spiderversity 
Member Since 2011

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

Ruben DaCollector wrote:

It really is a fantastic rendition of the Dread Dormammu, so cool looking! But, uh...."Doyle Dormammu"? Really?!? 🙄

As I understand it, Dormammu's insistence that he be called "Dread Jr.' led to many a lively duscussion, but in the end his mother got her way.  Family name and all that.  But Doyle is better than the nickname his classmates gave him...Dorkmammu.  Seriously.  I'm not making this up.

Ruben DaCollector 
Member Since 2008

Posted on 5/1/2023

Paul P Spiderversity wrote:

As I understand it, Dormammu's insistence that he be called "Dread Jr.' led to many a lively duscussion, but in the end his mother got her way.  Family name and all that.  But Doyle is better than the nickname his classmates gave him...Dorkmammu.  Seriously.  I'm not making this up.

That's the sad thing, Pauly, I never for a moment thought you were joking. Ah, Marvel...where have you gone?

Paul P Spiderversity 
Member Since 2011

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

Ruben DaCollector wrote:

That's the sad thing, Pauly, I never for a moment thought you were joking. Ah, Marvel...where have you gone?

Okay, I made up Dread Jr, haha.  Dorkmammu, on the other hand, is real.  But come on...That's funny!!  I have to believe that Doctor Strange even called Dread Sr that particular name a few times over the years.

Ruben DaCollector 
Member Since 2008

Posted on 5/1/2023

Paul P Spiderversity wrote:

Okay, I made up Dread Jr, haha.  Dorkmammu, on the other hand, is real.  But come on...That's funny!!  I have to believe that Doctor Strange even called Dread Sr that particular name a few times over the years.

But you see, this is the thing for me. You have a character who has been around since the beginning of the Marvel Universe's conception who is supposed to be taken seriously as an extreme danger to Dr Strange and anyone else. So when the publisher takes that character and uses them in a comedic manner, with other (powerless) characters calling him names like "dork" or anything else, the danger is that a character that was taken seriously for decades is suddenly going to be looked upon as buffoonish and someone to be thought of as a "punching bag" for any hero that comes along.

Marvel already has a ton of cool looking characters who have never gained much popularity (but easily could have) for the simple reason that writers treat them like they're useless buffoons. They don't need to convert more of them. If this series is happening in it's own self-contained universe and ISN'T cannon, then it's not as bad. But still, I don't like it when they fuck around with long established characters like this. That's a big part of the problem though, Marvel lost all their creativity decades ago, which is why all they ever produce are retreads of old shit that they've already done to death. If they want to do a humorous comic, hire people who still have an ounce of imagination. Look at Rek-Rap, it's funny because it's so over the top stupid. They didn't need to take an established character and make him act out of character like that. Why use established characters and suddenly try to make readers think those characters are to be made fun of, when you can just create new ones?

Paul P Spiderversity 
Member Since 2011

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

Ruben DaCollector wrote:

But you see, this is the thing for me. You have a character who has been around since the beginning of the Marvel Universe's conception who is supposed to be taken seriously as an extreme danger to Dr Strange and anyone else. So when the publisher takes that character and uses them in a comedic manner, with other (powerless) characters calling him names like "dork" or anything else, the danger is that a character that was taken seriously for decades is suddenly going to be looked upon as buffoonish and someone to be thought of as a "punching bag" for any hero that comes along.

Marvel already has a ton of cool looking characters who have never gained much popularity (but easily could have) for the simple reason that writers treat them like they're useless buffoons. They don't need to convert more of them. If this series is happening in it's own self-contained universe and ISN'T cannon, then it's not as bad. But still, I don't like it when they fuck around with long established characters like this. That's a big part of the problem though, Marvel lost all their creativity decades ago, which is why all they ever produce are retreads of old shit that they've already done to death. If they want to do a humorous comic, hire people who still have an ounce of imagination. Look at Rek-Rap, it's funny because it's so over the top stupid. They didn't need to take an established character and make him act out of character like that. Why use established characters and suddenly try to make readers think those characters are to be made fun of, when you can just create new ones?

I love how art can spark spirited debates like this! 

And I hear ya, but to be fair, through all of this, Dormammu has remained ultra cool and signifucany scary.  I mean, look at him on this cover image.  He has been and always will be a force to be reckoned with!  It's just his son (and he's only a 'son' because Dormammu gave him some of his power/essence to save him) who is treated a bit tongue in cheek, being called Dorkmammu by his classmates.

The Strange Academy series was meant to take imposing and scary characters like Dormammu and deal with their offspring in a more lighthearted way, having them interact in classes, mess around with each other, and generally act like the kids they are.

Paul P Spiderversity 
Member Since 2011

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

Ruben DaCollector wrote:

But you see, this is the thing for me. You have a character who has been around since the beginning of the Marvel Universe's conception who is supposed to be taken seriously as an extreme danger to Dr Strange and anyone else. So when the publisher takes that character and uses them in a comedic manner, with other (powerless) characters calling him names like "dork" or anything else, the danger is that a character that was taken seriously for decades is suddenly going to be looked upon as buffoonish and someone to be thought of as a "punching bag" for any hero that comes along.

Marvel already has a ton of cool looking characters who have never gained much popularity (but easily could have) for the simple reason that writers treat them like they're useless buffoons. They don't need to convert more of them. If this series is happening in it's own self-contained universe and ISN'T cannon, then it's not as bad. But still, I don't like it when they fuck around with long established characters like this. That's a big part of the problem though, Marvel lost all their creativity decades ago, which is why all they ever produce are retreads of old shit that they've already done to death. If they want to do a humorous comic, hire people who still have an ounce of imagination. Look at Rek-Rap, it's funny because it's so over the top stupid. They didn't need to take an established character and make him act out of character like that. Why use established characters and suddenly try to make readers think those characters are to be made fun of, when you can just create new ones?

And I love that you mentioned Rek-Rap.  He is going to make another rip-roarin' appearance in my CAF very soon!  Stay tuned!

Marcus Wai 
Member Since 2005

3 - Posted on 5/1/2023

You, have artwork to post
Must have Ramos, that you can live by
And so, become yourself
Because the best is just a good buy

Teach your children hell
Their father's spell did Humberto lines
And feed them on dark dreams
The one they pick's Dormammu spellbind

Doyle would never ask him, "Why?"
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at him and sigh
And know Dormammu

Paul P Spiderversity 
Member Since 2011

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

Marcus Wai wrote:

You, have artwork to post
Must have Ramos, that you can live by
And so, become yourself
Because the best is just a good buy

Teach your children hell
Their father's spell did Humberto lines
And feed them on dark dreams
The one they pick's Dormammu spellbind

Doyle would never ask him, "Why?"
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at him and sigh
And know Dormammu

Great song choice, Marcus, and great parody lyrics as always.  "Teach your children hell."  Haha!  I love that play on words. Quite appropriate when Dormammu is involved.  It's been a while since I listened to Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.  I forgot how much I love those beautiful harmonies.  

Ruben DaCollector 
Member Since 2008

Posted on 5/1/2023

I hear you man, I do. But I just feel that even though it's the kid that's being called names, it all reflects back upon the original character because that's the name being thrown around. As I say, while it does sound like it could be fun, I still think it easily could and should have been done as something that's clear to the readers that it takes place outside of cannon. I mean, a kid going around using Dormammu as his last name? The entire concept just seems to fit more a different line of comics geared towards teens, rather than making it part of the Marvel Universe proper. Either way, I don't need to read contemporary comics to enjoy the art, so it doesn't matter from that point of view. The cover is really cool. I'm just happy enough not to support anything the publisher does that I think are bad ideas, inso far as buying the comics is concerned.

In any case, I'm happy we can have these types of lively discussions without buying into the fallacy of some unwritten "rule" that the comments section of CAF should only be used to make specific comments about the art in question. If more collectors realized that, there wouldn't be any need to also have to sign up to multiple other online platforms, each with their own set of different rules about what you can and cannot say. Happy to chat here with you as always!

Paul P Spiderversity 
Member Since 2011

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

Ruben DaCollector wrote:

I hear you man, I do. But I just feel that even though it's the kid that's being called names, it all reflects back upon the original character because that's the name being thrown around. As I say, while it does sound like it could be fun, I still think it easily could and should have been done as something that's clear to the readers that it takes place outside of cannon. I mean, a kid going around using Dormammu as his last name? The entire concept just seems to fit more a different line of comics geared towards teens, rather than making it part of the Marvel Universe proper. Either way, I don't need to read contemporary comics to enjoy the art, so it doesn't matter from that point of view. The cover is really cool. I'm just happy enough not to support anything the publisher does that I think are bad ideas, inso far as buying the comics is concerned.

In any case, I'm happy we can have these types of lively discussions without buying into the fallacy of some unwritten "rule" that the comments section of CAF should only be used to make specific comments about the art in question. If more collectors realized that, there wouldn't be any need to also have to sign up to multiple other online platforms, each with their own set of different rules about what you can and cannot say. Happy to chat here with you as always!

AMEN brother! to what you said there at the end.  Of course it's super fun to hear what people think of the posted piece (especially when it's positive, lol), but the comments section can be so much more than that if people are willing to engage a bit --- and yes, even disagree sometimes (though, again, just so long as the underlying comment is how great the piece is, haha).  I always appreciate your complete honesty, as well as your complete passion, when it comes to all things comic art.  I look forward to many more spirited debates, both here on CAF and in our emails!

Ruben DaCollector 
Member Since 2008

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

And a big amen and halleleujah to that, broski! 🥰

K Gearon 
Member Since 2011

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

Dude, I love this one!  Such an effective cover image, upped by the connection between these 2.  Definitely makes you want to open up the comic to see what happens inside!  Really like that contrast of one side of the board just being HEAVIER than the other, and you got some nice scratchy inks throughout that really fit the subject matter.  Congrats, Paul!

Brian Lake 
Member Since 2015

1 - Posted on 5/1/2023

Wow - this cover is a stunner for sure! Fantastic addition to your collection!

Michael  McIsaac 
Member Since 2020

1 - Posted on 5/2/2023

What's better than one flaming head on a splash page?  How about one flaming head and a second giant flaming head.  So cool!

James Dornoff 
Member Since 2019

1 - Posted on 5/2/2023

Loved seeing this cover in it's original glory, a really fantastic piece, where the original B & W inks stand up to the final colored published cover. Congrats on this beauty. 

Jason Hussa 
Member Since 2017

1 - Posted on 5/9/2023

Great call on the Wizard of Oz imagery, Paul, as Humberto could easily sign this cover as "L. Frank DaBomb"!  An incendiary (and perfect) image depicting the inevitable confrontation one has with one's parents as one grows and stakes one's claim on their own life and choices.  Plus it's, y'know, Dormammu. :) Love how Humberto renders the Big D's flaming ember head here, too.  Fantastic Ramos, Paul!  Great pick up (and post)!

J Ledger 
Member Since 2009

1 - Posted on 7/14/2023

Always adding more fire to this incredible collection of yours! Awesome cover! 

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