Doctor Strange, Fall Sunrise #2, page 27 (Tradd Moore)
Artist: Tradd Moore (All)
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DescriptionThis is a really nice page from the second issue of Tradd Moore's series on Doctor Strange. As has been often observed, his style is really suited to this genre (as was the case with his work on Silver Surfer Black).The design and execution as well as dynamism of the page itself is quite amazing and this scan does not do it justice. It is also one of the pivotal momements in the issue itself. It is quite clear that – even with intervening physical ailments – Tradd puts his heart and soul into every page he produces (including this one). His style also seems to me to be perfectly suited to titles with cosmic and/or magical themes (such as this particular book and, of course, his earlier book which has already been mentioned, Silver Surfer Black). On a somewhat unrelated note, I was surprised to find that what I would term "The Tradd Moore Controversy" has recently been revived. There are obviously collectors who don't think that Tradd's work is worth the prices charged. And now the 'battleground' has shifted to resale prices of the same. I can do no better than to repeat what I had said in a past post of Tradd's work on issue 1: Just some personal observations on the recent controversy over the prices of the artwork for this book. I love this hobby and collect widely across genres. I should also say that, right from the beginning, whilst careful with my budget (I still am, in fact especially nowadays, with ever rising prices), I was always prepared for the artwork I purchased to go to zero although for some (especially from the very first Marvel titles or from classic issues), this was not likely to happen. Nevertheless, I think that it is good to be a bit of a pessimist in this hobby. The main financial prudence lies in staying within one’s budget at any given point in time (and stretching it occasionally to obtain a really nice and/or significant piece). As with most things in life, there will be hits and there will be misses. From my own experience, things tend to iron themselves out over time (although I should add that I have rarely ever had buyer’s remorse). However, there is one thing that nobody can ever presume to speak for insofar as another collector is concerned – whether a particular piece of artwork speaks to that collector – with that same sense of wonder that gripped us when we first encountered the four color medium as children. This sense of wonder cannot be measured solely in material terms. So let us not presume to judge – as my Mum used to say, “If you have nothing good to say, don’t say it!” However, the converse also holds true! So I hope that everyone can be as encouraging to others as is possible. We will all have different views, but we need not insist that we are correct. Quoting individual experiences will never cut the Gordian Knot in the quest to win an argument, particularly on pricing of original artwork. Just live and let live – and, more importantly, enjoy! PS: I hope that you like my other Dr Strange pieces by the other artists as well and as much as I like them! Social/Sharing |
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David Kwock 
Member Since 2012
2 - Posted on 9/20/2024
Beautiful page CAB! Major congrats on this. Tradd's style and vision are some of the most unique I've seen. I take a liking to artist styles that even from a mile away you can tell it's that paticular artist. Also love your view on the hobby; we all do it for our enjoyment and that's what matters most. ^_^
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
2 - Posted on 9/20/2024
David Kwock wrote:
Beautiful page CAB! Major congrats on this. Tradd's style and vision are some of the most unique I've seen. I take a liking to artist styles that even from a mile away you can tell it's that paticular artist. Also love your view on the hobby; we all do it for our enjoyment and that's what matters most. ^_^
Many thanks, David. And your views mean a lot to me - all the more because you have such artistic talent in your own right.
Ron B
Member Since 2024
2 - Posted on 9/20/2024
Brilliant page. I love the contrast of panel two, which looks like it might be Tradd scraping/etching into the paper to achieve much of the textured effect.
FWIW, regarding the price point arguments you mentioned in the description, here are my personal guiding principles (beyond budget, which is always the main factor) that I think about before making a possible purchase, just in case it's ever helpful to anyone else:
- Artwork you’d enjoy regardless of price or prestige
- Visualize it sitting in your portfolio - was it worth buying at the price?
- Stick to published unless Sam Kieth or Bernie?
- Think of cost effectiveness - is this piece worth giving up the next one for?
- Should give you those sweet jitters
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
1 - Posted on 9/20/2024
Ron B wrote:
Brilliant page. I love the contrast of panel two, which looks like it might be Tradd scraping/etching into the paper to achieve much of the textured effect.
FWIW, regarding the price point arguments you mentioned in the description, here are my personal guiding principles (beyond budget, which is always the main factor) that I think about before making a possible purchase, just in case it's ever helpful to anyone else:
- Artwork you’d enjoy regardless of price or prestige
- Visualize it sitting in your portfolio - was it worth buying at the price?
- Stick to published unless Sam Kieth or Bernie?
- Think of cost effectiveness - is this piece worth giving up the next one for?
- Should give you those sweet jitters
Many thanks, Ron. And many thanks for your helpful personal guidelines. BTW, I would love to own a Sam Kieth artwork one day (unpublished would be fine with me as well!).
Kavi H
Member Since 2018
1 - Posted on 9/20/2024
Congrats CAB it's a great page/piece by Tradd from a project that is singularly his style and creation both art and story. I can't think of a bad page from this series, art-wise. It's the writing/story part I personally had more of a difficult time connecting with, but to each their own of course. I find the divisiveness about his art prices usually coming from a pretty silly place, people buy what they want...there will always be opinions about art that is undervalued or overpriced, but at the prices his art can achieve being relatively new and fresh to market from recently released projects, really good for him to accomplish it. He's doing something different and it has connected with a wide array of readers and collectors so far, that should be celebrated. nice example!
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
1 - Posted on 9/20/2024
Kavi H wrote:
Congrats CAB it's a great page/piece by Tradd from a project that is singularly his style and creation both art and story. I can't think of a bad page from this series, art-wise. It's the writing/story part I personally had more of a difficult time connecting with, but to each their own of course. I find the divisiveness about his art prices usually coming from a pretty silly place, people buy what they want...there will always be opinions about art that is undervalued or overpriced, but at the prices his art can achieve being relatively new and fresh to market from recently released projects, really good for him to accomplish it. He's doing something different and it has connected with a wide array of readers and collectors so far, that should be celebrated. nice example!
Many thanks, Kavi. And thank you for your wonderful words of wisdom.
Marcus Wai
Member Since 2005
1 - Posted on 9/20/2024
Look at that 2nd panel! It's even more out there than the surreal visions Tradd uses for the rest of the page! There are also a lot surreal visions out there in thinking what luxury items should cost. Especially when they sell out at the price marked within 5 minutes.
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
1 - Posted on 9/20/2024
Marcus Wai wrote:
Look at that 2nd panel! It's even more out there than the surreal visions Tradd uses for the rest of the page! There are also a lot surreal visions out there in thinking what luxury items should cost. Especially when they sell out at the price marked within 5 minutes.
Many thanks, Marcus. And many thanks for applying the surreal to both art and reality!
R Berman
Member Since 2018
1 - Posted on 9/20/2024
Moore is a unique voice with a memorable style. Good art makes people think and talk about it, both of which happen here.
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
Posted on 9/20/2024
R Berman wrote:
Moore is a unique voice with a memorable style. Good art makes people think and talk about it, both of which happen here.
Many thanks, Robert. Unfortunately when the focus is more on the price than the art (and then lapses further into personal attacks), it gets a little messy - although I do acknowledge that one cannot completely distinguish the quality of the artwork from the its price. What is required, in the final analysis, is balance, in my view.
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
Posted on 9/21/2024
Michael 07 wrote:
Very cool page ! Tradd is a killer
Many thanks, Michael. And many congrats for landing an excellent Tradd page too!
Nick - Barry - Matt - Hal - Namor
Member Since 2015
1 - Posted on 9/21/2024
This is beautiful, so well designed and executed! Congrats CAB!
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
Posted on 9/21/2024
Nick - Barry - Matt - Hal - Namor wrote:
This is beautiful, so well designed and executed! Congrats CAB!
Many thanks, Nick. Its design is amazing indeed! Do take care.
Toni S
Member Since 2019
1 - Posted on 9/21/2024
I love Tradd Moore's art. Specially the one he performed in Doctor Strange's series. I fully agree you. To me, the best of the hobby is there are a lot of different point of views and tastes and opinions. This diversity is what it makes the hobby amazing. I try to listen and observe the ones who preceded me and to try to avoid mistakes. But sometimes happen. Smart thoughts my friend!
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
Posted on 9/21/2024
Toni S wrote:
I love Tradd Moore's art. Specially the one he performed in Doctor Strange's series. I fully agree you. To me, the best of the hobby is there are a lot of different point of views and tastes and opinions. This diversity is what it makes the hobby amazing. I try to listen and observe the ones who preceded me and to try to avoid mistakes. But sometimes happen. Smart thoughts my friend!
Many thanks, Toni. And many wise words from you too, my friend! This hobby should be fun!
F M
Member Since 2005
1 - Posted on 9/21/2024
Fun page.The intensity of the second panel alone is great.
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
1 - Posted on 9/21/2024
F M wrote:
Fun page.The intensity of the second panel alone is great.
Many thanks as always. Tradd is a master artist indeed as the second panel does enhance the entire age in a manner that makes the sum of the parts more than the whole.
Stephen F
Member Since 2005
1 - Posted on 9/21/2024
A beautiful example of Tradd's work on this title. Congrats!
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
Posted on 9/21/2024
Stephen F wrote:
A beautiful example of Tradd's work on this title. Congrats!
Many thanks, Steve. The entire book is indeed unique in its storyline and, above all, presentation.
Ruben DaCollector
Member Since 2008
1 - Posted on 9/23/2024
I must say, although I wasn't aware that the "Tradd Moore Controversy" has recently been revived, my reaction to that is "Who cares?!?". It is so exhausting to constantly see people feel the need to constantly harp o nthe value of a given artist's art prices. It's perfectly fine for anyone to have an opinion about the topic and also state said opinions, but to continue beating a dead horse because it won't drink at the trough is akin to banging your head against the wall, thinking that the wall might eventually break (before your head does). It's pointless and tiring. Best to not go anywhere near those people and just ignore them. I concur with the other commenters who rightfully point out how outstanding that second panel is. I'd love to see Moore draw and entire issue like that!
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
1 - Posted on 9/25/2024
Ruben DaCollector wrote:
I must say, although I wasn't aware that the "Tradd Moore Controversy" has recently been revived, my reaction to that is "Who cares?!?". It is so exhausting to constantly see people feel the need to constantly harp o nthe value of a given artist's art prices. It's perfectly fine for anyone to have an opinion about the topic and also state said opinions, but to continue beating a dead horse because it won't drink at the trough is akin to banging your head against the wall, thinking that the wall might eventually break (before your head does). It's pointless and tiring. Best to not go anywhere near those people and just ignore them. I concur with the other commenters who rightfully point out how outstanding that second panel is. I'd love to see Moore draw and entire issue like that!
Dear Rubén, of course I absolutely agree with you. The problem is, as I see it, at bottom one of clash(es) of personalities and/or the desire to always have the last word - either or both of which is a recipe for disaster and often undending conflict (which subsides only to be revived again in the fullness of time). All most unpleasant and the antithesis of what our hobby stands for. On an entirely different note, I am quite surprised at the enthusiasm for the second panel - although it is, to be sure, quite distinctive.
Yo Kuri
Member Since 2019
1 - Posted on 9/26/2024
Energy, motion, power and passion. No one does it like this!
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
Posted on 9/26/2024
Yo Kuri wrote:
Energy, motion, power and passion. No one does it like this!
Many thanks. Well put and totally spot on!
Bill J
Member Since 2009
1 - Posted on 10/1/2024
Absolutely stunning page! Tradd Moore's work on Doctor Strange is some of the most beautiful comic book artwork I've ever seen. Every page of the comic demands the reader to take the time to study it and look really closely. His work is not always easy to follow, but if you make the effort, the reward is there. I love this page as we follow Stephen Strange on his journey. I love all the different techniques Tradd uses on this one page! The linework is exceptional. And the inks are superb! Great example from a great comic book!
Comicart Boston
Member Since 2010
Posted on 10/1/2024
Bill J wrote:
Absolutely stunning page! Tradd Moore's work on Doctor Strange is some of the most beautiful comic book artwork I've ever seen. Every page of the comic demands the reader to take the time to study it and look really closely. His work is not always easy to follow, but if you make the effort, the reward is there. I love this page as we follow Stephen Strange on his journey. I love all the different techniques Tradd uses on this one page! The linework is exceptional. And the inks are superb! Great example from a great comic book!
Thanks very much, Bill, for such a detailed comment. You've really said it all!
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