Daredevil 170 – page 10
Artists: Frank Miller (Penciller) , Klaus Janson (Inker) , Frank Miller (Writer)
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DescriptionI might be mistaken but, aside from the cover, this page might be the first appearance of the Kingpin in Daredevil.Following on from the upload of my first Daredevil-less Daredevil page just over three years ago this is my only other Frank Miller-drawn page of original comic art. This page shares a number of similarities with the earlier page I posted. One of the dissimilarities is that unlike with Ben Urich I can proudly say that I cannot identify with Wilson Fisk, who is a narcissist, a bullying arrogant thug, who is treacherous (throwing Cherryh under the bus), an unrepentant convicted felon who surrounds himself with sycophants. Any decent-minded person hopes that he gets his comeuppance but he seems to live a charmed life and comes back time and time again to plague DD and Spidey. I do have one similar physical characteristic with Fisk. Clue: it is not that my body is composed of 100% muscle and is therefore a deadly killing machine. The features that this page has in common with my other FM page is that this page also does not feature any of the big three – Hornhead, Elektra or Bullseye. Additionally, this page also has what might be deemed a disincentive to buying it – a personalisation. The person from whom I got it told me that they were related to Kev, who was a martial arts tutor. I think he said that he was his son and that “Lanky Frank” had given the page to his dad in gratitude for the martial arts instruction he had received from him, which obviously bled through into the authenticity of the choreographed fight sequences. How cool is that? When I picked this page up some time ago it was from what could be described as the budget Frank Miller range, a diffusion line that has long since ceased to exist. An example of a premium page available at around the same time was the “I thank you, my foot thanks you,” page from issue 180 and whose auction found me well down the list of underbidders. When I uploaded my earlier FM page I have to admit it was with some trepidation. It was at the time, and still might be, the most financially valuable page I had in my collection. I can totally understand why some CAF members will not post their most valuable pages. It’d be like walking through Hell’s Kitchen in the early hours of the morning sporting a gold-plated Rolex ostentatiously on your wrist. But on reflection I thought posting the page could work in my favour. As I had not expressed any interest in selling it, and still don’t, then anybody “illegally acquiring” it from me might have difficulty fencing it if it was on public record that I was the current custodian. There is the possibility that someone getting the page from me without my permission might not be doing it for monetary gain but for self gratification, to furnish their subterranean man-cave to impress flight attendants they might want to entertain and to whom they would display their discriminating taste, just like Jonathan Hemlock in The Eiger Sanction. In that case, I would pretentiously invoke Marcus Aurelius who said, “What are you afraid of losing, when nothing in the world actually belongs to you?” My appreciation to the son of Kev (sorry I do not recall your name) for providing me with this page. It is in reasonably good hands, and I will guard it with my life. I am thankful. Social/Sharing |
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Michael Weigant 
Member Since 2009
1 - Posted on 3/4/2025
Wow,absolutely fantastic kick -ass panels in this one !
M L
Member Since 2015
Posted on 3/4/2025
There is so much to love about this page - congrats and thanks for sharing!
Simon Ma
Member Since 2013
1 - Posted on 4/10/2025
M L wrote:
There is so much to love about this page - congrats and thanks for sharing!Thank you for your appreciation. I really enjoyed your IC3 interview and by far the most interesting section was the third segment.
Lloyd White
Member Since 2007
1 - Posted on 3/4/2025
It doesn't get much better than this--congratulations!
Simon M.
Member Since 2003
Posted on 3/4/2025
If you're going to have a great non-DD page, this is it. Miller all the way!
Simon Ma
Member Since 2013
1 - Posted on 4/10/2025
Simon M. wrote:
If you're going to have a great non-DD page, this is it. Miller all the way!
Thank you for your comment. Of course all the best people have the surname “Miller” don’t-you-know?
Simon Ma
Member Since 2013
1 - Posted on 4/10/2025
Marcus Wai wrote:
Mojo Dojo Daredevil House that Miller built.
That’s practically a haiku. Thank you.
J. Sid
Member Since 2004
1 - Posted on 3/4/2025
Great page!
Before Miller, Fisk was simply Marvel's tool for writers to use up their 'fat jokes' on.
Simon Ma
Member Since 2013
Posted on 4/10/2025
Felix Lu wrote:
Peak Janson inks on Miller!
High praise indeed from one of CAF’s highest-profile Miller/Janson fans. Thank you.
Nick - Barry - Matt - Hal - Namor
Member Since 2015
1 - Posted on 3/4/2025
This is GORGEOUS! Congratulations!
Peter Sullivan
Member Since 2006
Posted on 3/5/2025
Like your description. I can never understand the mentality of not showing what artwork you have. Selling stolen artwork would be almost impossible these days. We own nothing anyway. We are just temporarily holding it while we work through our brief blip in eternity.( A gold watch, now thats a different beast. Lol. So much easier to sell. ) The personalisation would not bother me as its from before Franks uglier signature and scrawl period. Keep this fabulous page unless the bailiffs are beating at the door.
Simon Ma
Member Since 2013
1 - Posted on 4/10/2025
Peter Sullivan wrote:
Like your description. I can never understand the mentality of not showing what artwork you have. Selling stolen artwork would be almost impossible these days. We own nothing anyway. We are just temporarily holding it while we work through our brief blip in eternity.( A gold watch, now thats a different beast. Lol. So much easier to sell. ) The personalisation would not bother me as its from before Franks uglier signature and scrawl period. Keep this fabulous page unless the bailiffs are beating at the door.
I like the cut of your jib, sir; we are singing from the same hymn sheet and I do hope to upload everything of merit in my collection onto CAF in due course; the only obstacles hampering this are my laziness and decrepitude. It may be some indication of the calibre of my collection that I have only ever had two purchase enquiries: the first Miller page and the Marshall Law sketch so those will be the first to go to postpone those pesky bailiffs if that should ever occur.
Peter Sullivan
Member Since 2006
Posted on 3/5/2025
I forgot to add that you will be getting offers from fans of fat villains!
Simon Ma
Member Since 2013
1 - Posted on 4/10/2025
Peter Sullivan wrote:
I forgot to add that you will be getting offers from fans of fat villains!
I think there is a name for those types of people. Sadly, and worryingly, there are quite a few of them about at the moment, although perhaps slightly less now than there were at the end of last year.
Jeff Singh
Member Since 2004
Posted on 3/8/2025
Very cool page. I think the layout is brilliant and cinemotographic that has that Kubrick/Anderson sense of layuts. The page is basically one large panel with four inset panels and that main panel is the focus and your eyes are drawn in. The page starts with the long, setting shot and zooms in to the main panel and then we get the close up. There is symetry and balance to every panel. It is a great way to introduce the Kingpin to Daredevil and Frank Miller creates the defining persona of this previously underutilized villain. I think the story telling and the layouts are what make Frank Miller most notable and his art is just in service of this. A few issues later in this series Janson might be the only one to touch the pages and it is Miller's design and writing that keeps it great. I like the martial arts on this page and having been a student for many years, I was inspired by Daredevil and Elektra (and Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee) to start to study and I did it for many years. I think the back story to this page is even cooler, coming from the instructor that helped Frank figure some of this out.
On to your comments about art being stolen. I don't worry about that too much. If stolen by someone that knows what it is, they also know they will never be able to sell it or display it publicly. If stolen by someone that has no clue what it is, it is unlikely they would take it in the first place as they would be too busy taking other things they understood in a break in. Even if they did, it wouldn't take long for someone to see it if sold or showed up somewhere. A police report means if it ever appeared it would be yours again. There is the change it gets stolen and then destroyed when the liability of stolen art is realized. I have people over all the time to see art. I have shown my collection and display on national and local television a few times. We have an alarm system, cameras, locks on everything and a dog. If some cat burgler really wants that Dick Tracy from 1934 on my wall, they will have no real trouble getting it but the average bad guy I think would just pick another target. Fire and water are the two things you really need to worry about, not theft. So, enjoy your art and if too believe art is meant to be seen and shared, then share away to your own content. I find the offers are few and far between. I posted an prime Byrne X-men page about a month ago and not a single inquiry.
Simon Ma
Member Since 2013
Posted on 4/10/2025
Jeff Singh wrote:
Very cool page. I think the layout is brilliant and cinemotographic that has that Kubrick/Anderson sense of layuts. The page is basically one large panel with four inset panels and that main panel is the focus and your eyes are drawn in. The page starts with the long, setting shot and zooms in to the main panel and then we get the close up. There is symetry and balance to every panel. It is a great way to introduce the Kingpin to Daredevil and Frank Miller creates the defining persona of this previously underutilized villain. I think the story telling and the layouts are what make Frank Miller most notable and his art is just in service of this. A few issues later in this series Janson might be the only one to touch the pages and it is Miller's design and writing that keeps it great. I like the martial arts on this page and having been a student for many years, I was inspired by Daredevil and Elektra (and Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee) to start to study and I did it for many years. I think the back story to this page is even cooler, coming from the instructor that helped Frank figure some of this out.
On to your comments about art being stolen. I don't worry about that too much. If stolen by someone that knows what it is, they also know they will never be able to sell it or display it publicly. If stolen by someone that has no clue what it is, it is unlikely they would take it in the first place as they would be too busy taking other things they understood in a break in. Even if they did, it wouldn't take long for someone to see it if sold or showed up somewhere. A police report means if it ever appeared it would be yours again. There is the change it gets stolen and then destroyed when the liability of stolen art is realized. I have people over all the time to see art. I have shown my collection and display on national and local television a few times. We have an alarm system, cameras, locks on everything and a dog. If some cat burgler really wants that Dick Tracy from 1934 on my wall, they will have no real trouble getting it but the average bad guy I think would just pick another target. Fire and water are the two things you really need to worry about, not theft. So, enjoy your art and if too believe art is meant to be seen and shared, then share away to your own content. I find the offers are few and far between. I posted an prime Byrne X-men page about a month ago and not a single inquiry.
Wow, thank you for your long, thought-provoking but about all very very wise comments. There is certainly a lot to digest in what you write. And there was I getting the page because it just looked nice but it must have been working on me on a subconscious level. From what you say you are as recognised in your local community as you are on CAF and this together with your training would mean only a fool would dare tangle with you. You have some very good, sensible advice which I will need to take on board. As far as the Byrne page for which you have had zero enquiries – I don’t think anyone who read comics in the late 1970s onwards would not desire that page but they would have to have trousers with pockets as deep as the Mariana Trench before they could get anywhere close to what you value it at. You have given me a lot of food for thought. Thank you.
Timothy Finney
Member Since 2006
Posted on 3/9/2025
I love how Miller established how formidable a fighter the Kingpin is, even in a world chock full of superheroes, right from the start. (Also, I had forgotten that this scene took place in Japan. When I first saw the thumbnail, I thought it might be a Wolverine page.) Sweet!
Simon Ma
Member Since 2013
Posted on 4/10/2025
Timothy Finney wrote:
I love how Miller established how formidable a fighter the Kingpin is, even in a world chock full of superheroes, right from the start. (Also, I had forgotten that this scene took place in Japan. When I first saw the thumbnail, I thought it might be a Wolverine page.) Sweet!
Now that you mention it, the page does seem to be a sort of dry run for that classic Wolverine mini-series with Chris Claremont. Well spotted.
Duke Fleed aka #1 Groo Fan
Member Since 2013
1 - Posted on 4/11/2025
Love the juxtaposition of the poetic opening scene to the fun sumo wrestling action below. Huge Congrats!
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