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DescriptionTo me-- and you don't have to agree-- Batman strangles the Joker here. That is the end of the Killing Joke.Social/Sharing |
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Matt S
Member Since 2006
Posted on 3/21/2011
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Peter Sullivan
Member Since 2006
Posted on 3/21/2011
I read this as either two possibilities.Either they both like crap jokes(this is afamous bad one which I heard years before this comic came out) or else they both are mad.Anway theres not much mental difference as they are both tormented.
Lloyd White
Member Since 2007
Posted on 3/21/2011
Killer page---and I really like your take on the ending!
Rich Cirillo
Member Since 2004
Posted on 3/21/2011
I never looked at it like he was choking him, but it is a viable interpretation. The second to last panel showing the dirt on the puddle could represent a grave plot also.
Joseph Melchior
Member Since 2005
Posted on 3/21/2011
That's certainly how I always argued panel 4 and 5 for years but Brian himself seemed surprised by this interpretation.
DC's Showcase
Member Since 2006
Posted on 3/21/2011
While either ending satisfies, and "killing Joker" is the way I initially read the story back when, a change in Joker's feet in panel 7 would have cinched this interpretation (i.e., toes up, or gone altogether). Instead, both pairs are last seen standing together, then vanishing apart to continue their mutually mad dance of death (at least, as I now see it). An artistically ambiguous finale nonetheless, and a magnificent piece of art. Congrats!!
Chris K.
Member Since 2008
Posted on 3/21/2011
First, what an amazing page - stunning. Second, have never heard that interpretation - had only heard the one that describes the disappearing beam of light evidencing the lack of real difference between the two characters. Hmmm...I think I like your take better...
Brian Peck
Member Since 2003
Posted on 3/21/2011
Best page from the book EVER! A nice ending for such a dark story (depends on how you read into the two panels). Congrats!
- Artemaria
Member Since 2007
Posted on 3/21/2011
A typical afternoon at the DM household --- Whatcha got there Honey? Oh, just a few Bollands. What, bullocks? No Bollands, he's a funny book artist. Oh . . what are you going to do with them? I'll put them on CAF, it is just so much fun watching grown men (and it is 99.99 % men here folks) cry. But I'll tell them a joke while I'm at it, that should cheer them up. Okay, Honey, have fun with your little hobbies. Congrats and thanks for breaking up your day to bring us joy (seeing this unbelievable collection) and sorrow (knowing this is as close as most of us will ever get).
Ron S
Member Since 2007
Posted on 3/21/2011
Just great. Nothing else to be said. And, I always liked that last joke...
Anthony F
Member Since 2004
Posted on 3/21/2011
Amazing! I also interpreted as he might be strangling the Joker, especially, since they go silent the last few panels. Its the 'killing' joke. ;)
J. Sid
Member Since 2004
Posted on 3/21/2011
My initial reaction for years was "no way, that's crazy talk." The older I get though, the more inclined I am to think that that was Moore's intent, even if he didn't let the DC editors (or Bolland) in on it.
Jason Harris
Member Since 2005
Posted on 3/22/2011
Argh, you just did it to me again. This is always the page that comes to mind when mentioning the killing joke...congratulations
comicinkking. com
Member Since 2004
Posted on 3/22/2011
I disagree on the choking, but I love this page!!
Ken Fries
Member Since 2006
Posted on 3/22/2011
I'd also never looked at that page that way, but I can see it. Not sure I agree, but makes for an interesting argument, and a good interpretation nonetheless. BTW, do you have children, or any other heirs? You have to leave this stuff to SOMEONE, eventually...just sayin'... :)
Peter P
Member Since 2009
Posted on 3/23/2011
Oh my one of my fav pages from the book! Beautiful sequential art. Actually it's news to me that everyone thinks that Batman is NOT choking the Joker, I always saw it he he was getting a good grip at the base of the throat, as the Jokers neck is so thin, and Batman's hands so big. And that the only thing that saves the Joker this time is the car arriving. Just look at the intent and body positions! Super congrats!!
Daniel C.
Member Since 2009
Posted on 4/6/2011
The only person being "strangled" here is the previous owner who's probably strangling himself for letting this one go. Unfreakin' believable. You are a blessed man indeed.
Adam Ianbarry
Member Since 2010
Posted on 4/7/2011
Stunning stuff!!! Beautiful panels... a treasure.....
Daniel M
Member Since 2009
Posted on 4/22/2011
JUST A COUPLE OF GUYS GETTING TOGETHER FOR A FEW LAUGHS!!
Shannon Lentz
Member Since 2010
Posted on 5/11/2011
Wow, great piece. I'd like to hear how you come about it and how much you had to pay...
Gal Schwartz
Member Since 2005
Posted on 1/27/2012
I'm surprised I haven't commented on this one before (have I missed seeing it ?), anyway - this is probably among the top 5 pages from the book and one of the all-time most iconic Batman and Joker moments. This story (and art !) still hold the bar way up there.
Gal Schwartz
Member Since 2005
Posted on 1/27/2012
I'm surprised I haven't commented on this one before (have I missed seeing it ?), anyway - this is probably among the top 5 pages from the book and one of the all-time most iconic Batman and Joker moments. This story (and art !) still hold the bar way up there.
Thomas V
Member Since 2008
Posted on 8/7/2012
The glorious excesses of the late 80's. Alan Moore may dismiss this as a throwaway story, but I think it's quite substantial. Whether he strangled the joker or laughed along with him until the paddy wagon arrived, Batman is doomed. A brilliant sequential Rorschach revealing more about us, than them. Wonder if it was intentional or just happy accident.
comicinkking. com
Member Since 2004
Posted on 8/10/2012
From the script: Panel 3 – Now just a half figure of head and shoulders shot of the Batman from the front. The absurdity of the situation comes home to him, and one corner of his mouth twitches upwards. He and the Joker are going to kill each other one day. It’s preordained. They may as well enjoy this one rare moment of contact while it lasts. The Batman: heh.
comicinkking. com
Member Since 2004
Posted on 8/10/2012
And: Panel 5 – Now we see them full figure. There is a large puddle at their feet. They are now both helpless with laughter and have collapsed forward onto each other, both ragged and bloody, each holding the other up as they stand there clinging together in the rain. The white and blue lights that approach them from the rainy darkness beyond are bigger now, and there is a small thin line of red sound effect lettering winding right across the panel from left to right as their sirens become audible. The Batman: Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Joker: Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. F.X. (approaching sirens): vweeeeeEEEEEEeeeeeeEEEEEEEeeeeee Nothing sinister there.
Mike W
Member Since 2007
Posted on 8/16/2013
Batman DID kill the Joker! (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2013/08/batman-kills-the-joker-thats-why-its-called-the-killing-joke/)
John B
Member Since 2004
Posted on 8/18/2013
"I agree!" Boy, this page just became a bit more timely, didn't it?
artless artmore
Member Since 2013
Posted on 5/9/2018
What a treasure! I'd personally rather own this page than the cover (not that the prospect of either piece entering my collection is likely...)
Ken Lomas
Member Since 2020
Posted on 1/22/2022
I always assumed the Joker gave Batman some laughing gas (thus Batmans laughing). My interpretation is they killed each other.
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