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The good old days (from 1992 catalog)

Artist: Jack Kirby (Penciller)

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Title: The good old days (from 1992 catalog)
Artist: Jack Kirby (Penciller)
Media Type: Photograph
Art Type: Other
For Sale Status: NFS
Views: 408
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Comments: 10
Added to Site: 11/14/2020
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Currently in Robert Frey's gallery.


First, let me apologize in advance for the pain I am about to inflict on all of you. Especially if you are the current or former owner of any of these pieces. I figured since I have a near complete set of Mitch’s old mail order catalogs, it might be “fun” (if not masochistic) to take a stroll down memory lane. But take heart. For even though most (if not all) of these posts will be almost unbearable and cringe worthy to many of you, just remember that 20-30 years from now, these will be the “good old days” to some new collector just starting out.

I’ve gotten many wonderful compliments from the fine people of CAF about my collection/gallery. All giving me credit for being smart enough to buy all the pieces I bought way back when. Well, now I’m about to show you all what an absolute idiot I was. Keep in mind that many of the pieces that currently reside in my collection came from these very same catalogs. So the next time you want to call me a genius for all the pieces I did buy back then, just take a look at some of the rubbish I DIDN’T buy! In other words, this is the collection I COULD‘VE had. (Somebody shoot me now! LOL)

What is very interesting to note here is that during this 9-year span of catalogs (1984-1993), there is nothing here that is priced over (or anywhere near) $1000. Actually (with the exception of the Killing Joke page), nothing even breaks the $500 range. Absolutely incredible for pieces that could all easily be five figures (or more) today!

By the way, I’ve got dozens and dozens of these. So I’ll be posting them in chunks from time to time (to prolong the torture).

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Aaron N.  
Member Since 2009

Posted on 11/15/2020

To be fair, $300 in 1992 is equivalent to 550. today, so...

E DLS 
Member Since 2005

Posted on 11/15/2020

Aaron N. wrote:

To be fair, $300 in 1992 is equivalent to 550. today, so...

Ha!  Well, thanks for doing that math for me.  I guess I'll go ahead and offer Robert $550 for it.  Heck, maybe I'll even up  it to a whopping $600.

robert frey 
Member Since 2004

Posted on 11/16/2020

E DLS wrote:

Ha!  Well, thanks for doing that math for me.  I guess I'll go ahead and offer Robert $550 for it.  Heck, maybe I'll even up  it to a whopping $600.

if you would have said 600.01 then we might have had a deal, eric! as a fyi, by the time i got this, about 8 years later, the price had jumped a little bit.

E DLS 
Member Since 2005

Posted on 11/16/2020

robert frey wrote:

if you would have said 600.01 then we might have had a deal, eric! as a fyi, by the time i got this, about 8 years later, the price had jumped a little bit.

Wait, wait, I found a penny!  LOL!  Yeah, I think it's really interesting that right when Mitch stopped publishing catalogs, that's about the time the art boom started.  As I've stated, in the late 80's and early 90's, I was too busy buying up Art Adams and Mike Mignola stuff, that I pretty much ignored what was happening to the Silver and Bronze Age markets.  It's like I just blinked in the mid 90's and the next thing I know art prices had gone through the roof.  Anyway, thanks for the fun comment Robert.  Please do stay safe.

J H 
Member Since 2019

1 - Posted on 11/17/2020

"300 Dollars!?!?!?!" I wanted to add some dialogue for the giant mouth. This page is awesome, and I love that the owner dropped in to comment. I'd like to offer $601, Mr Frey. Don't sell to these other cheapskates! Thank you for posting these, I get an inordinate amount of enjoyment from them.

E DLS 
Member Since 2005

1 - Posted on 11/17/2020

J H wrote:

"300 Dollars!?!?!?!" I wanted to add some dialogue for the giant mouth. This page is awesome, and I love that the owner dropped in to comment. I'd like to offer $601, Mr Frey. Don't sell to these other cheapskates! Thank you for posting these, I get an inordinate amount of enjoyment from them.

Yeah, that's been fun.  Robert is actually the third current owner who's chimed in.  Ron Sonenthal also posted a comment about his Colan DD splash.  And Mark Levy posted a comment on his Kirby / Everett cover.  I have at least two more pieces that are currently on CAF, so we'll see how the  ownerss respond to see their old ads.

Peter Sullivan 
Member Since 2006

Posted on 11/17/2020

Why does nobody ask how much the actual artists were getting at the time?

E DLS 
Member Since 2005

Posted on 11/17/2020

Peter Sullivan wrote:

Why does nobody ask how much the actual artists were getting at the time?

Are you talking about their actual page rate from the companies, or for their artwork on the secondary market?

Peter Sullivan 
Member Since 2006

Posted on 11/17/2020

E DLS wrote:

Are you talking about their actual page rate from the companies, or for their artwork on the secondary market?

Artwork on the secondary market. My understanding was their rates were pretty low from the actual companies and selling artwork was extra 'pocket money'. Enlighten me please.

E DLS 
Member Since 2005

1 - Posted on 11/17/2020

Peter Sullivan wrote:

Artwork on the secondary market. My understanding was their rates were pretty low from the actual companies and selling artwork was extra 'pocket money'. Enlighten me please.

Hmm, well, the entire concept of "wholesale" prices (i.e., the price of the art directly from the artist) is a bit tricky.  Today, I don't even think an actual wholesale market exists.  Artists have gotten wise to the game.  Why cut a dealer in when you can get all the money?  So even though you buy directly from the artist (which previously would have been considered wholesale), with all the market data they get from dealers and auctions, even THEY are charging retail prices now.  And of course there are artists who don't want to bother with art sales so they hire a rep or agent.  Then percentages come into play.  Most people belive that reps and dealers are the same thing.  Not quite.  Dealers, in general, sell all kinds of art.  While reps, in general, sell artwork exclusively for their clients.  But there ARE dealers who rep specific artists too.  As for Mitch, I believe back in these catalog days, he was actually going to the Marvel offices and picking up the art there, then selling them for the artist.  I'm not sure if he was so much buying the artwork outright and reselling, but just paying the artist as things sold.  I wouldn't even venture to guess what his cut was.  But I'd like to think the artist got the bulk of the selling price.  So if he's selling a Buscema Thor cover for $75 bucks, maybe the artist got at least $50 of that?  Who knows?  Maybe he charged extra for going to Marvel to pick up the art.  LOL!  In general I think it's safe to say that pretty much all of the Silver and Bronze Age artists didn't make anywhere near as much money as today's artists do. 

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